{"id":861,"date":"2017-01-22T11:08:52","date_gmt":"2017-01-22T16:08:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/madstone.net\/?p=861"},"modified":"2017-05-21T13:21:38","modified_gmt":"2017-05-21T18:21:38","slug":"i-do-not-need-to-march-for-rights","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/madstone.net\/?p=861","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;I don\u2019t need to march for any rights,&#8221; she said."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I spotted this post on Facebook today written by a Trump supporter in response to the women\u2019s march, a woman with an Hispanic-sounding last name.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================================<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I am not a victim. I don\u2019t need to march for any rights. I have the same rights as anyone else. I\u2019m not raising a victim either. So let\u2019s call today\u2019s activities what they really are, an anti Trump rally for prochoice people. What a bunch of bullies and so much hate speech (scarlet johansen verbally attacking a woman &#8211; Ivanka Trump and Madonna talking of her fantasies to blow up OUR White House). I don\u2019t want my daughter looking up to any of those nasty women.<\/p>\n<p>Anyone involved in this farce, I am disappointed in you for being a part of such hypocrisy. You are not victims. I would have so much more respect for you if you just called it \u2018Women marching against Trump in fear of losing (abortion) choice.\u2019 I stand behind your right to march for that. Just be honest about what you\u2019re doing.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>=========================================================<\/p>\n<p>I want to discuss this point-by-point, so I\u2019m including the entire thing. I\u2019m also going to write about some things that are at least implied by her profile.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Point one:<\/strong> A woman wrote this. Women only slightly older than I am have told me about rights they only gained within our lifetimes. She seems to assume that, because she has these rights now, that she\u2019ll always have them. Many, many, many women and men have fought for over 200 years to get to the point where she can feel confident that she has the same rights as the men around her. I don\u2019t think it\u2019s overstating the case to say that she has these rights in part because \u2018nasty women\u2019 stood up to social pressure to fight for them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Point two:<\/strong> A person with a minority last name, Hispanic in origin, wrote this. There are American citizens of Hispanic descent in the US today who face daily discrimination, including being subject to unequal policing and discrimination in the workplace. She lives in an urban area in North Carolina, so it\u2019s possible she herself doesn\u2019t see such discrimination, but I suspect that it would be an eye-opening experience for her to drive through some of the states along the Mexican border. Even in North Carolina, though, it\u2019s probably only her economic status that\u2019s shielding her. I hear people casually referring to Hispanic folks with really ugly racist terms, and assuming\/implying that &#8220;the Mexicans&#8221; are <em>only capable<\/em> of being roofers, landscapers, or house maids. I wonder if she\u2019d be comfortable being addressed with any of those terms, or lumped into those assumed limits.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Point three:<\/strong> \u201c<em>I am not a victim<\/em>\u201d she says. That\u2019s great. I\u2019m glad that she feels safe in her life. I\u2019d never wish any ill to her. But many of our fellow citizens are not so safe. I am able to see that just because I\u2019m not  <em>personally<\/em> being victimized, the incoming administration is putting many more of those citizens into precarious situations or outright danger.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Point four:<\/strong> \u201c<em>I don\u2019t need to march for any rights.<\/em>\u201d Nice. Apparently she doesn\u2019t have the slightest sense of gratitude for everyone who has marched and fought for those rights.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Point five:<\/strong> \u201c<em>let\u2019s call today\u2019s activities what they really are, an anti Trump rally for prochoice people.<\/em>\u201d I can\u2019t call the marches that, because it would vastly understate the reasons I\u2019ve seen my friends list for why they marched.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Yes, some are pro-choice, but not all.<\/li>\n<li>Yes, nearly all the marchers are anti-Trump, but that wasn\u2019t exactly a hidden motivation.<\/li>\n<li>I\u2019ve seen people who are also marching against the incoming vice president and Trump\u2019s choices for his cabinet and other administration posts; let\u2019s not pretend Trump is the marchers\u2019 only concern<\/li>\n<li>I\u2019ve seen people marching in support of LGBT rights, which they see as being at risk with the new administration<\/li>\n<li>I\u2019ve seen people marching in support of minority &amp; immigrant rights<\/li>\n<li>I suspect the list is a lot longer than this.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><strong>Point six:<\/strong> \u201c<em>What a bunch of bullies<\/em>\u201d The dictionary definition of \u2018bully\u2019 is: <a href=\"https:\/\/duckduckgo.com\/?t=lm&amp;q=define%3A+bully&amp;ia=definition\">A person who is habitually cruel or overbearing, especially to smaller or weaker people<\/a>. It\u2019s essentially impossible for someone out of power to bully a person in power. I\u2019ll ding her here for poor word choice at a minimum. Given the tone of the rest of the post, though, I would prefer to list this as a biased word choice. People are often cruel, and if the speakers were, in fact, being cruel, then I wouldn\u2019t support that. If they were, rather, speaking emotionally and emphatically, then I totally support that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Point seven:<\/strong> \u201c<em>I don\u2019t want my daughter looking up to any of those nasty women.<\/em>\u201d That\u2019s fine. I hope that she models really good behavior for her daughter. I\u2019d suggest she look carefully at her Facebook posts to see if she\u2019s doing so. I\u2019m also really curious as to whether she thinks Trump\u2019s behavior is a good model for her offspring. Would she really feel comfortable sending her daughter out on a date with a young man who spoke about women the way Trump does? I think she\u2019s exhibiting a double standard by defending Trump, but accusing the speakers at the march as being nasty.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Point eight:<\/strong> \u201c<em>You are not victims.<\/em>\u201d How can she know that? Her assumption \u2014 that everyone at those marches is as safe in their lives as she is in hers \u2014 goes beyond simple privilege into territory I find offensive. She is invalidating the concerns of millions of other Americans just because those concerns aren\u2019t hers. Outrageous.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Point nine:<\/strong> In her second paragraph, she accuses the march of being a farce, and the marchers of being hypocrites. To use the word \u201cfarce\u201d to describe hundreds of thousands of people taking (in many cases) days out of their lives to express outrage and concern about a long list of political and social issues is just plain slander. It makes me doubt her claim that she would stand behind the right to march against Trump and for reproductive rights. She reinforces my doubt with her accusation of hypocrisy, because, again, the marchers have worked really hard to list their concerns on social media, on the signs they carried, and in innumerable blog posts, speeches, and interviews over the last two months. I see no hidden agendas, no hypocrisy.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Final point:<\/strong> I saved this for the last, because it would have been redundant to make it for each point above. <em>To assume that \u2014 because you have a right \u2014 you will always have that right, is to ignore history and ignore all the people who fought and sometimes<\/em> died <em>for these rights.<\/em> Rights, once gained, need to be actively protected for many years, and jealously guarded from attempts to diminish them.<\/p>\n<p>To return to the subject line of this post&#8230; Why are people marching? People are marching to keep and extend the rights that this woman takes so much for granted.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_875\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-875\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/madstone.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/no_one_is_free-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-875\" src=\"http:\/\/madstone.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/no_one_is_free-2.jpg\" alt=\"Marcher in New York City on Jan. 21, 2017. Photo by Robert Stribley, used with permission.\" width=\"600\" height=\"552\" srcset=\"https:\/\/madstone.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/no_one_is_free-2.jpg 600w, https:\/\/madstone.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/no_one_is_free-2-300x276.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-875\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Marcher in New York City on Jan. 21, 2017. Photo by Robert Stribley, used with permission.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I spotted this post on Facebook today written by a Trump supporter in response to the women\u2019s march, a woman with an Hispanic-sounding last name. ========================================================= I am not a victim. I don\u2019t need to march for any rights. I have the same rights as anyone else. I\u2019m not raising a victim either. So let\u2019s &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/madstone.net\/?p=861\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;&#8220;I don\u2019t need to march for any rights,&#8221; she said.&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[46],"tags":[69,70,68,67],"class_list":["post-861","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-social-commentary","tag-human","tag-march","tag-rights","tag-women"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pgY3e-dT","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1092,"url":"https:\/\/madstone.net\/?p=1092","url_meta":{"origin":861,"position":0},"title":"&#8230;can essentially get away with anything&#8230;","author":"Jorah","date":"December 4, 2017","format":false,"excerpt":"People talk about breaking paradigms. 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